James von Brunn Murder - Media Begins ault on Liberty Minded Community
This is video from June 11th, 2009 edition of Countdown with Keith Olbermann. They describe von Brunn’s ideologies in particular detail which both demonizes the Republican Party and its members beliefs but also lumps in advocates for Constitutional government. I have pointed out several instances where they connect von Brunn’s motives for attacking a guard at the National Holocaust Museum with beliefs held by peaceful citizens. This type of characterization is used by the media and has been seen after many disasters like the connection created between Islam and the attackers on 9/11. These tactics are only useful in dividing people among party lines and cleanly labeling people based on left or right, liberal or conservative, when in reality most people who hold any of these beliefs never act out violently.
Right-Wing is a vague term and encompasses many Americans. This attack was motivated primarily by race but the conversation has gravitated to politics and which party is to blame for their rhetoric that might have sent this man to take violent action. Today’s freedom movement is one that advocates peace and non violence. This man acted as an individual and not a representative of any cause but his own in taking the life of Stephen Jones.
To better understand how a more accurate political spectrum looks take the World’s Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quizp/index.html
It is in the shape of a diamond where
Up - is least government (libertarianism)
Left- Some Civil Liberties, Less Financial Freedom (Democrats)
Right-Some Financial Freedom, More Control of Civil Liberties (Republicans)
Down-Government control of all aspects of life (Statism)
Duration : 0:9:11
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
At least someone …
At least someone knows whats going on. I think it is funny how everybody thought that when Obama got into office this country would change. How wrong they were. Obama wasn’t voted in, he was chosen by the people running this world. He’s not black either, his mother was white, so we still haven’t had a true black person for president. Like it matters anyway. The president is just a fake leader that comforts the public that doesn’t know what is going on.
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
There is no left …
There is no left and right. They are all the same puppets just acting to make certain people happy.
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
They both are …
They both are guilty - but if you want to talk about the “O’Reilly” of the left - then that honor goes to Robert Greenwald and his organization Brave New Films.
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
I’m happy to take …
I’m happy to take all the level of insults and rebuttals you can dish and I’m perfectly happy to provide to you with the solid counter-arguements to each of your claims. It can be noted the left is very much guilty of having espoused the same level of hypocritical behaviour as they claim the right is guilty of.
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
u conservatives …
u conservatives love to dish it…(like limbaugh here, and zell miller’s 2004 RNC speech) ….but u cant take it.
von brunn’s beliefs (along with many republicans) …want all abortions banned…..want our borders closed, and to deport all aliens b/c they are racists….and von brunn and conservatives are big NRA supporters.
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
Can you provide an …
Can you provide an intelligent arguement rather than resort to insults? That tactic has already become very old and childish. Von Brunn was neither conservative (because if he were, he would never uphold the beliefs he held for so long) or liberal - in my opinion, he was another insane individual who resorted to breaking the law in order to further his ill-founded hatred.
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
emily…limbaugh …
emily…limbaugh calling von brunn a liberal is about as logical as calling michael vick an animal lover.
i think its fair to ume limbaugh is addicted to RX painkillers again…as it appears he has lost his marbles.
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
I saw nothing in …
I saw nothing in the Rush Limbaugh televised radio broadcast clip that contradicts what he said. Keith Olbermann is once again clutching at straws and trying to further his anti-conservative hatred and pro-liberal views. Also, I find it funny that Mr. Olbermann is quick to capitalize on this story - but what of Private Long who was murdered by a Muslim? Probably didn’t help his cause so he didn’t bother to mention it much.
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
James von Brunn was …
James von Brunn was a nutcase, no dispute on that point exists. And I’ve been to his website (along with millions of other curiosity-seekers) but I would hardly call his writings “coherent”. Olbermann is giving him a bit too much credit in the brain department.
That been said, the trigger-happy retard in this incident was a right-wing element. He may have been a defective product, but he was none-the-less a product of the right-wing factory.
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
How quickly these …
How quickly these republicans will defend assination.
First they gave up on ‘fiscal conservatism’, then they started supporting Bush no matter how big the screwups.
Is republicanism really just a joke?
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
nah, i think Chris …
nah, i think Chris Matthews is. He screams, he never lets guests talk, just like O’reilly. Olbermann, whatever you think of him, is pretty unique. (though he steals E.R. Murrow’s style)
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
Olbermann is the …
Olbermann is the O’reilly of the left.
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
Oh and the guest on …
Oh and the guest on here is a fool. He believes the US never had a gold standard and that we always have had a federal reserve. More kool-aid brainwashing. We are on our third federal reserve. Lincoln stopped the first one, he was shot. Andrew Jackson stopped the second. They tried to kill him twice but failed. JFK was their last threat.
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
i will say again. …
i will say again. The protestant Martin Luther was Adolf Hitlers idol. Does that make Martin Luther a bad person.
Another main stream attempt to connect the dots for the kool-aid drinkers. Tap water is for suckers.
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
“Patriotism is the …
“Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel!” Samuel Johnson (1709-1784)
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
Insults and name …
Insults and name calling? I was just being a mirror to show the irony that you said “I bet your to stupid to realize…”
YOU ARE TOO STUPID- YOU ARE, =you’re, too as in also or in excess of, addition to..simple elementary-school understanding of language. If you lack a fundamental understanding of language yourself you are hardly in the place to call others stupid…I thought you were going to bed with someone’s mother anyway..?
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
Yeah- Ayers- he’s …
Yeah- Ayers- he’s such a threat that he’s a free man….
And I said LETTERMAN JOKES…not Perez jokes moron, I know Perez wasn’t joking, however Letterman WAS joking-
What about the pastor who was praying for the death of Obama?
WHEN WAS THE LAST LEFT-WING ATTACK JACKASS? The 80s? You gonna say Reagan? Come on man…Ayers is old news, and the ‘attacks’ on the right from the left are not as frequently and vehemently violent, and the left rarely acts on violent rhetoric even if repeated.
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
perhaps the thing …
perhaps the thing that makes him afraid is the colour of our president…
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
Oh I’m sorry did …
Oh I’m sorry did get to you? Seems like your cracking or I bother your logic in some sense hence your insults and name calling.
Don’t worry sucker I’m good at that game too!
I can dick slap you across the face all day with jokes. However you want to play it sack sniffer I’ll make you eat dirt kid…..
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
What are you …
What are you talking about???
Perez jokes? No sugar check the record again what he said was vile. As far as the DJ he was fired for the threats. And I did not even hear you respond to he physical aults? FACT CHECK!! Oh and how about the bomber liberal extremest Ayers!!! How could I forget him!
I’m not here t defend any radical extremest on any side. But if your going to take a idea and think your in the better party just know your in a b.s political game. POWER TO THE PEOPLE
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
I would like to …
I would like to mention to this idiot who posted this video that I am a ‘liberty minded person’ and I am not in the least threatened by ANY of the coverage of the shooting, so there is some other element besides being ‘liberty minded’ that is making him concerned. I mean really- I am liberty minded- abolish the FED, abolish income taxes, the 16th Amendment is a fraud..2nd Amendment is rule (I favor regulation of some weapons but not all)..I am not afraid- what is it that makes him afraid? lol
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
I bet your to …
I bet your to stupid to realize that this statement is not grammatically correct….?
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
‘here’s a cookie …
‘here’s a cookie share it with your retard friends aka the gop”
Dude how old are you?
Hahha you sound like a 10 year old.
IDIOT “HORTA” I bet your to stupid to know the origin of that name but buddy it’s not white American you dumb cheese fetus
But before I sign off and go to bed with your mama I just want to let you know that I look at you and see a waste of air & life. Your making me rethink abortion rights.
Sweet dreams, with regards. Your mother&I…
XOXO
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
and please- perez …
and please- perez hilton and the letterman jokes?
Wait- what did the Dj say, did he say I wish he would die, I wish someone would kill him, or did he say “someone kill this ” and did he mean it? On the other hand, there is no ambiguity coming from YOUR side of the fence, my sad friend.
The sooner you wake up and realize that it’s the right wing that has the violent extremist groups and not the left..the left wants to take away your toilet paper, not kill you. (apparently)
August 29th, 2009 at 3:16 am
and how many …
and how many left-wig hate-groups are there promoting the death and praising murderers? Can you name 5? The last conservative to actually be attacked? The last liberal to bomb innocent civilians?
I am talking about VIOLENT, HATE speech…you are trying to take what are a quaint few instances of some angry individuals to construe them as institutional with the liberal movement, when that is a lie. Whereas anti-abortion, anti-gay hate groups are all firmly supportive and supported by the right..